An Anti-Israel President

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    Uh... yes? They already have. Both sides have agreed to less than what they demand at different points in time. This is why they're called "negotiations." Cuz you... uh... NEGOTIATE. You give a little, take a little. You know?

    If someone doesn't believe that one side or the other will budge, then what the fuck is the point?
     
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    Yes, Obama said the same conditions as all the other Presidents and could not have been more pro Israel...but Israel has changed it's voiced position. Based on '67 borders with agreeable land swaps is no longer on the table for Israel and with that she immediately gets a load of Americans hissing at their president for sticking to what has already been agreed.......

    but was never going to be put into practice.

    Netanyahu has made it clear he is not wanting peace. He is not willing to make the compromises necessary for it.

    In September a Palestinian State will be recognised by the UN and by probably the rest of the world apart from the US and Israel. France and Britain have already said they will probably recognise it if Israel does not show that she is willing to engage in meaningful talks and Netanyahu has made it clear he is not.

    We will then have a few years of court cases when all the dross will be brought out, Israel will probably become increasingly isolated in the world and eventually the Palestinians will get dignity, human rights and the right of self determination the rest of us takes for granted. Eventually the US will come onside just as it did reluctantly and late with South Africa.

    How the rest of the ME develops will also make a difference but it seems unlikely that it will be in the vested interests of the US to ignore the situation in Palestine for very much longer never mind the moral position.

    Netanyahu has not helped Israel. He is not even living in reality.
     
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    Hmm..Obama cut or vetoed any spending for Israeli defense..when?

    Come on.

    Show me.

    Or STFU.
     
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    we are in a world religious war against islam because we are totally mesmerized with jews ....jews have voted 87% communist demokrat since the 30s - no arab ever called me a nazi - fascist - kid killer - millions of christians and jews did = while they carried vietcong flags----- stop pissing away our money on religious wars=== nobody told those jews to found israel = let them settle accounts with muslims on their own - by the way - obama did pretty good with the jewish vote - i hope they enjoy it
     
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    Islam was killing Christians and Jews long before Israel was a state. This is the Jews fault as well... It's all the Jews...
     
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    :cuckoo: It's always "the Jews hasn't it? "Those damn Jews"...Muslims are killing other muslims by the thousands but all we hear from People like you are .."It's the Jews fault" Yeah it was the liberal socialist 60s radical that called you "baby killer" not only Jews, and the right wing Christians are the biggest supporters of our military so maybe you should focus on the leftists in general, the fact that you single out Jews is telling
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAz2ZeKsG50]YouTube - ‪Terrorist Fundraiser for Hamas Praises Obama‬‏[/ame]
     
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    U.S. recognizes Muslim Brotherhood

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    The U.S. has decided to formally resume contact with Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood group - which does not recognize Israel – in a move that could further alienate some Jewish voters already skeptical of President Barack Obama, it was reported.

    One senior U.S. official said the Brotherhood’s rise in political prominence after the forced departure of former President Hosni Mubarak earlier this year makes the American contact necessary.

    “The political landscape in Egypt has changed, and is changing… It is in our interests to engage with all of the parties that are competing for parliament or the presidency,” said the official, who confirmed the news to Reuters on condition of anonymity.

    The Muslim Brotherhood - founded in 1928 to promote a conservative version of Islam in politics, culture and society – has previously had some communication with the U.S. through Brotherhood Members of Parliament who had been technically elected as independents. U.S. diplomats had been instructed only to deal with Brotherhood members in their role as Members of Parliament.

    The decision to resume contact with the Muslim Brotherhood group may worry members of the Jewish community and Israeli officials, Reuters reported.



    Read more: U.S. recognizes Muslim Brotherhood - Tim Mak - POLITICO.com
     
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    the Hadith was not written until the early to middle ages. They are not part of the original Quran. Israelies of ancient had enemies surrounding them then also, and today, it is a violent area to inhabit, they should have picked Florida as a nation.
     
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