Back To Mueller Manafort Conviction--With Basis In Ukraine Meddling (Cited By Nunes)?

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    Now subsequent Thursday, then just possibly Republicans will in fact reassess and realign any support for the Trump Administration going forward. Thursday, Rep. Nunes is noted to have remarked that the Trump Campaign in fact had a Ukraine problem: "Reason to be wary." The Congress member simply failed to remark how deep the problem really was.

    It directly involved the Trump Campaign Chairman, Paul Manafort.

    Mueller documents: Manafort pushed Ukraine hack theory

    The Clinton's had ties to lots of World Governments going back decades. Election interference never came up and likely never happened. The Foundation problems were legacy issues, comparing: Like noting that at least the Reagan Library has some planes in it(?).

    Paul Manafort is in prison, RNC Trump Campaign chairman: Possibly like Judiciary Committee members may be able to recall. House Intel Committee has put on record the litany of evidence regarding US Administration being overly friendly with Russian worldwide national interference campaigns.

    It even happens here--and is apparently Republican Administration welcomed!

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    There are headlines from many papers documenting that the Ukraine opposed Trump. Its not just Russian propaganda.
    Trump gave Ukraine lethal aid, and Obama gave them blankets, who who was stronger opposing Russian aggression?
     
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    The Global Interpretation of the September release of the impounded aid for Ukraine is that Bipartisan Congressional action was about to be introduced to do just that, and to prevent The Trump Administration from holding it up, ever again. That was scheduled for a vote the very next day.

    Trump administration reinstates military aid for Ukraine

    The testimony at House Intel is that the Trump Administration had no interest at all in Ukraine. The testimony at House Intel is that only bigger stuff--foreign interference in US elections--is what the Trump Administration really wants, even now. That is now, in recent events: Campaign plank number one of the Republican Party, USA. . . .Unless and Except a different course is taken in the Senate.

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    Obama had the Ukraine scared to death that Trump would stop all foreign aid...that they would be facing Russia all alone....it was a lie and the Ukrainian government can see that now and are willing to help clear the air.....dems should be very concerned....especially the magic Kenyan....
     
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    And remember- that supposed concern Trump has about corruption in Ukraine?

    He never asked Unkraine to investigate Manafort.
     
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    The Obama Administration policy was about non-lethal aid so as not to promote a Russian Escalation of armed mutilations of Ukrainians along their really, really long shared border. Trump has problems with even the Mexican-US border, in fact. Mutilating Baby-genitalia--while ripping them out of the arms of the parents--is not widely shown something Trump opposes. In fact, subsequent entering the White House--then Donald Trump had to be persuaded to lethal aid to Ukraine. Friendly to Putin was the entry foreign policy.

    Trump’s Ukraine Maneuver Was Impeachable, but Was It a National Security Threat?

    The subject planes have not been deployed to the incursion-front, in fact: Still Putin-Friendly, some might say, like Slate might say with basis in the link.

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    By March 2015, the US had committed more than $120 million in security assistance for Ukraine and had pledged an additional $75 million worth of equipment including UAVs, counter-mortar radars, night vision devices and medical supplies, according to the Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency.
    That assistance also included some 230 armored Humvee vehicles.


    Trump appears to be echoing a critique leveled at the Obama administration by the late Republican Sen. John McCain. "The Ukrainians are being slaughtered and we're sending blankets and meals," McCain said in 2015. "Blankets don't do well against Russian tanks."
    While it never provided lethal aid, many of the items that the Obama administration did provide were seen as critical to Ukraine's military. Part of the $250 million assistance package that the Trump administration announced (then froze and later unfroze) included many of the same items that were provided under Obama, including medical equipment, night vision gear and counter-artillery radar.

    Fact-checking Trump's claim that Obama gave Ukraine "pillows and sheets" - CNNPolitics
     
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    Then to the matter of "Whistle-Blower" security concerns--yesterday I could post from another poster's link of a 2017 Politico article--regarding the not-too-friendly tactics of Russian interference in other nations, easily able to even happen here. The Republicans said now also friendly to methods like below, from Russians.
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    Chalupa left the DNC after the Democratic convention in late July to focus full time on her research into Manafort, Trump and Russia. She said she provided off-the-record information and guidance to “a lot of journalists” working on stories related to Manafort and Trump’s Russia connections, despite what she described as escalating harassment.

    About a month-and-a-half after Chalupa first started receiving hacking alerts, someone broke into her car outside the Northwest Washington home where she lives with her husband and three young daughters, she said. They “rampaged it, basically, but didn’t take anything valuable — left money, sunglasses, $1,200 worth of golf clubs,” she said, explaining she didn’t file a police report after that incident because she didn’t connect it to her research and the hacking.

    But by the time a similar vehicle break-in occurred involving two family cars, she was convinced that it was a Russia-linked intimidation campaign. The police report on the latter break-in noted that “both vehicles were unlocked by an unknown person and the interior was ransacked, with papers and the garage openers scattered throughout the cars. Nothing was taken from the vehicles.”

    Then, early in the morning on another day, a woman “wearing white flowers in her hair” tried to break into her family’s home at 1:30 a.m., Chalupa said. Shulyar told Chalupa that the mysterious incident bore some of the hallmarks of intimidation campaigns used against foreigners in Russia, according to Chalupa.

    “This is something that they do to U.S. diplomats, they do it to Ukrainians. Like, this is how they operate. They break into people’s homes. They harass people. They’re theatrical about it,” Chalupa said. “They must have seen when I was writing to the DNC staff, outlining who Manafort was, pulling articles, saying why it was significant, and painting the bigger picture.”

    In a Yahoo News story naming Chalupa as one of 16 “ordinary people” who “shaped the 2016 election,” Isikoff wrote that after Chalupa left the DNC, FBI agents investigating the hacking questioned her and examined her laptop and smartphone.

    Chalupa this month told Politico that, as her research and role in the election started becoming more public, she began receiving death threats, along with continued alerts of state-sponsored hacking. But she said, “None of this has scared me off.”
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    “The whole story originated with the Kremlin,” Chalupa said in an interview on Monday, pointing to an initial December 2016 statement from Russia’s spokeswoman accusing the Ukrainian government of trying to sabotage Trump’s campaign by exposing that Manafort hid millions in payment for his work pushing Kremlin-backed candidates in Ukraine.

    The narrative that the government of Ukraine meddled in 2016 using Chalupa as an intermediary has made a comeback among Trump defenders as they beat back a mountain of emerging evidence that Trump used his leverage over Ukraine to pressure the country's leaders to investigate his political rivals, including former Vice President Joe Biden and the 2016 presidential campaign of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    'I'm on a mission to testify': Dem Ukraine activist eager for impeachment cameo
     
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    Blab, blab, blab then at the end you quote CNN so the end result is just blab, blab, blab and nothing.
     
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