Cancer Treatment wait times....increasing under national healthcare system in Britain...

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    As the National Healthcare system in Britain collapses....this problem is going to get worse and worse....they can't sustain it.....

    Annals of Government Medicine

    The London Times headlines: “Cancer patients face record wait.”

    Cancer patients are being forced to endure the worst waiting times since records began, official figures reveal.
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    In total, 168,390 patients were not seen or treated within the specified times. The figure is up 24% on the same period in 2018-19. Staff shortages, lack of equipment and beds filled by patients needing social care were to blame.
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    In September, 76.9% of patients with suspected cancer began treatment within two months of an urgent referral from a GP.

    “Urgent” isn’t what it once was. Delays in obtaining treatment often lead to poor outcomes:

    Last year, for the first time, the NHS carried out more than 2m checks. It says cancer survival is at an all-time high, yet Britain is near the bottom of international league tables for cancer survival and is lagging years behind some countries for some types of the disease.

    The National Health Service is unaccountably popular with Britons. In the current election campaign, Jeremy Corbyn made an issue out of documents apparently obtained by a hacker that, he said, showed the Tories were planning to “sell the NHS” to the U.S. Labour described alleged discussions between the Teresa May government and the U.S. as “the plot against our NHS.” Upon his arrival in London for the recent NATO meeting, President Trump was asked about the claim that he was trying to “buy the NHS.” Trump said he wouldn’t take the NHS if it were offered on a silver platter.
     
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    Good thing there are still private doctors for people that can afford it. Want to guess what happens to people in the states when they can't afford insurance or private care? A lot of them die due to lack of care. I bet they wish they had that awful public option that Britain does.

    You know, I was wondering something...

    With how horrible public healthcare is, why do you suppose the approval rating for healthcare is so much higher throughout Europe than it is in the states? Why do you suppose it is that none of these nations will ever stop providing national healthcare? Why do you suppose it is that we are one of the only nations on Earth that doesn't offer a public option?
     
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    They don't know anything different. They will eventually have the quality of the healthcare decline and decline since they can't afford it. If the United States stopped providing for their national defense, their medicines and their medical innovation, the collapse would happen much faster.
     
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    Because they don't know any better.
     
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    The same tired nonsense right wingers have been saying for decades. These nations will never stop providing a public option. You really think people in Europe live under a fucking rock? Don't know anything different? They know enough to actually be scared of visiting the states because God forbid they get hurt here and have to pay for an ER visit.

    Europe does not need us to provide defense. The idea that Russia or anybody is just waiting for their chance to invade western Europe is lunacy. The nations that make up the EU could destroy Russia's WW2 era military all on their own if they needed to, and even if they did need help it wouldn't take us long to come back and provide assistance. None of that would ever happen though because Russia is not fucking stupid. They know they have nothing to gain by doing something crazy like that. They're not stupid blood lusting monsters.

    The idea that they wouldn't provide public healthcare if not for our red white and blue dick laid across western Europe is nonsense. Let's bring those forces home and see what happens. I bet their healthcare won't go away, EVER. They will never stop providing public healthcare, and it really is only a matter of time until the states starts doing it too. The same goes for public university. It's going to happen, sorry. On this issue conservatives are temporarily just in the way.
     
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    What a load of shit. They know what we do and they want no part of it. Why is the approval of our healthcare so low?
     
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    Moron....those nations can't field the units they are required to by treaty let alone face off against Russia........
     
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    Moron, over 80% of our people were happy with their healthcare before obama wrecked it.......it isn't about treating sick people, it is about controlling people through their medical care...you moron.
     
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    The combined EU could kick Russia's ass. It's irrelevant anyway though because RUSSIA ISN'T GOING TO FUCKING INVADE WESTERN EUROPE. THE RED SCARE IS OVER. THE WORLD HAS CHANGED. GET WITH THE TIMES YOU STUPID COWARDLY OLD FUCK.

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    No, they really don't. The NHS is all most of them have known. It started well, but like most people here, they only hear what they are told, but don't check the accounts for themselves.

    The NHS is failing. The rate of failure is increasing.
     
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