Dems in Big Trouble in 2020. Here's Why.

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    More like the middle asking themselves...why would I vote out the guy that has the economy booming...and replace him with the same idiots who didn't have a clue what to do with the economy the last time they were in charge!

    You on the left have to paint Trump as "crazy" because if you tried to run on your policies compared to his...you wouldn't be able to elect a Democrat as town dog catcher!
     
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    Tom Stayer entering the fray officially today might throw a monkey wrench into your analysis. Of course how a billionaire hedge fund guy who made his money off coal is going to rebrand himself an environmentalist and man of the people remains to be seen. He has the money to buy the nomination though.
     
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    You think money is going to buy the votes of the far left? Steyer is jumping in because he recognizes the Democrats don't have a viable candidate and he's trying to fill the void. He might do well in a general election against Trump but he's not going to win the nomination because he's not extreme enough.
     
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    Agreeing to pay off the DNC debts seemed to help Hillary win the nomination. You don't need to be extreme to win the super delegates. You just need to be rich.
     
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    But Clinton had the Clinton political machine already in place (including Debbie Wasserman Schultz at the DNC) and huge name recognition. What does Steyer have that even comes close to that?
     
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    And Debbie sold her the nomination in exchange for paying of the DNC debt. The DNC was basically bankrupt. This is why you heard things after the fact about the plan to tank Bernie by attacking his religion etc from inside the party. Steyer has donated a LOT of money to progressive causes. He has been working at buying this thing for awhile.
     
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    Does he have the political machine behind him to pull that off though? Does he have Clinton's name recognition? Contributing money to progressive causes gets you the ear of progressive politicians...it doesn't necessarily get you the votes of progressives.
     
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    Debbie Wasserman Schultz was in Clinton's camp no matter what the financial situation of the DNC was. They had a relationship that went back for some time.

    Do you think Steyer has anything like that inside of the DNC?
     
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    No one really thinks Trump has had anything to do with the good economy he inherited... and it will be in full recession next year.

    Actually, most Americans support Democratic policies... That's why they've won every popular vote since 1988 except for 2004, when Bush had to scare the crap out of us to barely win.

    Once the economy goes into the tank, Commie Bernie could run against Trump and win. The problem with Steyer is he's been trying to build a movement for two years, and has gotten nowhere.
     
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    As a repub you probably thing repubs will win every year

    It is bound to happen so don't believe you have a crystal ball

    Barack Obama 2012 Democratic 65,915,795
    Hillary Clinton 2016 Democratic 65,853,514
    Trump 2016 62,984,828
    Mitt Romney 2012 Republican 60,933,504

    if someone told me in 2016 that the nominee would still lose when they got roughly 3 million more votes, I would have my doubts

    The electoral college is the winner every year
     

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