Do we agree that a fundamental difference between the right and the left is...

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    ...what the role of government should be in society? Is it accurate to say that left-wing ideology supports more government programs, more government management/oversight and higher taxes wherein right-wing ideology supports having LESS of those things?
     
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    The right claims to want less of those things, but they don't practice it.
     
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    O'rly?

    Trump Proposes a Record $4.75 Trillion Budget

    The deficit was DECREASING when the GOP took over Congress. Trump and the GOP have since INCREASED the deficit to DOUBLE its size.

    And the last time the GOP owned all of Congress and the White House under Bush, they also skyrocketed the deficit and the debt.

    You have to be a retard with seven pounds of brain damage to drink the piss you idiots are fed that the GOP is all about small government.

    Seriously. You have to be stupid, stupid, stupid.
     
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    While many voters on the right say they hold those beliefs, the people they have voted for over the last 100 years or so do not hold those views.

    This is what happens when "conservatism" is broken down to just a few social issues and fiscal conservatism does not matter.
     
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    Some claim to be on the right just like some are Republicans but legislate like leftist Democrats. Still, there are many on the right that oppose government takeover of the health industry and the existence of the Department of Education and government involvement in the student-loan business, etc. Unfortunately, there aren't enough of us.
     
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    The conflict is between Liberty and Equality.

    They are natural enemies---Because there is a natural Inequality in Ability (and Motivation as well). Thus motivated talented persons given the Liberty to go out and do their best---will naturally get ahead and destroy the Equality that the Socialists want.

    The Natural Order is directly opposed to the notion of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (Marx).

    As this nonsense can never stand in the long run (and never has)---Force becomes necessary to maintain Socialist Artificial Equality. Force to restrict Liberty.

    That's is why these Ignorant Socialists (No Work Free Stuff--Equality) quickly become Communists--they need force to Take Away the property of the Talented and Motivated. That takes Big Government necessary first, and very quickly Totalitarian Government.

    Been going on for centuries. It's only new to those educated in public schools in rotting Northern cities run by Democrats for half a century.
     
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    Not knowing what the OP said, I'll just add my own 2 cents. IMHO, the fundamental difference between the 2 parties is collectivism, i.e., the prioritization of the group over self, as opposed to individualism. Basically a greater dependence on a bigger gov't vs individual independence. Not to an absolute either way (I think).
     
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    Is it your view that the right supports government takeover of health care, higher taxes and more social programs, as the left does?
     
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    Exactly. They feed you a bunch of bullshit about how they don't want those things, yet they pass legislation that regulates what you can and can't do with your own body.
     
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    I'll add this guy to my "ignore" list.
     

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