Discussion in 'Politics' started by rightwinger, Jan 15, 2012.
Indeed Lincoln saved the Union. It even cost him his life.
Can you name a Conservative who marched with Civil Rights protesters?
This was a North/South issue not a partisan political issue
It sure did
Uh he wasn't gay, it's more propaganda. And he did do that, and while I love states rights, it's not right or just to allow slavery. So Lincoln was going to tolerate it, but the south attacked him, ooops…...he then went through generals until he found the great Ulysses S Grant, who opened a can on the Confederacy. So while I agree with states rights, the feds have some jurisdiction, one is immigration (its one of the few roles the feds should actually have) and another is protecting innocent life, which means no abortion or slavery.
No you lie, it was a partisan issue. Republicans had tons of conservatives, in fact more than the democrats pre civil rights and didn't pass jim crow laws or oppose civil rights legislation until some opposed it in 64, due to the power of the feds, not racial issues...….so we can go down this road, but I'll whip your ass on it. it was not ideological, it WAS partisan. I didn't hear about FDR stopping them, did you?
So are you are OK with the fact that the Union also had slavery during the Civil War? And since you mentioned Grant, did you even know that Grant was a previous slave owner?
No I'm not ok with it, yeah I'm aware of the border states, the difference is I don't judge based on history. Lincoln had to do what he had to do. Like I said, he wasn't trying to force the south to give it up, but then the south did a stupid thing and attacked him, and justice was done. As for Grant, he did have one, and gave him freedom prior to the civil war, he did the right thing.
Why didn't the US free their slaves before invading the South? And NJ was not a border state, they still had slavery after the war was over. Although not many.
What does that have to do with the question. The short answer is the southern economy depended on it.....Why does Apple not just bring jobs back to the US for decent wages???
ery was awful, but many did it before the US and some are still doing it.....why always focus on the US?
Slavery in Africa - Wikipedia
Although outlawed in all countries today, slavery is practiced in secret in many parts of the world. There are an estimated 30 million victims of slavery worldwide
Imbecile. rightwinger is absolutely right, it was a north/south issue, not a political party issue....
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