How NSA tracks you and why it's illegal.

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    William "Bill" Binney, former NSA technical director on how NSA track you.
     
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    In a nutshell, the reason it's illegal is because they're doing it secrecy which is a blatant violation of the 4th Amendment. They also share data with other agencies - take your pick; DHS, FBI, CIA, DEA, IRS and on and on- who are capable of bypassing search and arrest warrants using parallel construction and other dirty tricks.

     
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    Doing it in secrecy. Bush lied about it and so did Obama .
     
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    One thing you must understand the Law. Cops have restrictions on how they can gather evidence. The can not break into your house except in fresh pursuit. But a normal citizen can enter your house and get evidence and get it to the LEOs. If caught they can be arrested but if unknown they face no charges. So anything you do can be traced. Your car, your computer, (unless you are smart) your postings. E,t,c. You can always take the Clinton's I don't remember".
     
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    There's a reason NSA built three gigantic data processing centers in Maryland, Texas and Utah. Plus one in UK and one in Australia ( that I know of) And the satellites have nano-technology ( they can see what kind of tomatoes you're growing if they want )...people have no idea what they're capable of.
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    Most Americans don't know what the 4th Amendment is, much less that it's being completely violated right under our noses. For over 20 years btw....since way before 9/11.
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    The second you agree to the terms of service from whatever provider you're using you consent to it.

    End of the day it's like this. Don't ever say anything on the Internet that you wouldn't be perfectly comfortable saying in a courtroom and all will be well.
     
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    You don't seem to understand.
    They're collecting and storing everything...it doesn't matter what anyone signs or not. Sure you can throw away your devices and go live off the grid in Montana but they'll still see what kind of tomatoes you're growing from the nano-technology satellite surveillance.

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    Angelo, you're preaching to the choir, brother.

    Just imagine how it'll get when the moderate vote gets us a biometric National ID. Heck, we don't even have to imagine. All we have to do is go read past legislation. Our elected ones pretty much said they've left the legislation open-ended so that the intelligence agencies can add to the biometric database whatever they want later on if they believe it's a matter of security. They'll have access to our whole lives. And by their own order. If we recall, security is why we see law-abiding Americans with their pants dropped down below their ankles at the airport by order of a man with a gun from the government. They're even so bold as to put predrawn footprints where they want us to stand. Security is why we have stop and frisk. Among other things. Yes indeed the terrorists hate us for our freedoms. But it's those terrorist cells in Washington DC who hate them the most. The fact that they're the only ones attacking them should be clear to all.

    Oh, I understand alright. Ha.

    The problem is that the people love them for it. And that's an uphill battle. People who participate in coercion understand very little of its function or their participation in its function. And they know absolutely nothing of its consequence until it's too late and their usefulness has run its course and served its purpose. Only then will they realize they were just another useful idiot who will ultimately suffer under the same tyrannical hammer they helped put everyone else under. This is the moderate vote. Make no mistake about that. It's the most dangerous faction in America to our civil liberties today. They're the ones who bring us all of the bad anti-liberty legislation coming out of both parties in Washington. And all under the foolish illusion of compromise. To their credit, they really don't understand their role in it. The really don't. After all, the media popularizes the idea of being a moderate. And people want to be led rather than think it through themselves. As a consequence we get a steady stream of how wonderful it is to be a moderate because people generally just repeat what they hear. So, we educate rather than engage in useless quarrels. It's all we can do. Our audience is the casual passer-by. Remember that.
     
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