Illegal Employer Problem

Discussion in 'Immigration/Illegal Immigration' started by sealybobo, Feb 6, 2009.

  1. pknopp
    Offline

    pknopp VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2019
    Messages:
    4,284
    Thanks Received:
    239
    Trophy Points:
    65
    Ratings:
    +1,462
    That does not make sense.

    I saw it and ignored it as anecdotal examples prove nothing. There is no way to verify anything and one off examples of something proves very little.

    Trump does say that but he does not do the things that would actually address the issue. Arrest those employing them. I am 100% for that.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. Correll
    Offline

    Correll Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2015
    Messages:
    56,440
    Thanks Received:
    6,461
    Trophy Points:
    1,870
    Ratings:
    +34,670
    FYI, just contacted the White House, as a supporter, calling for punishment of employers of illegals.
     
  3. pknopp
    Offline

    pknopp VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2019
    Messages:
    4,284
    Thanks Received:
    239
    Trophy Points:
    65
    Ratings:
    +1,462
    Went to the same place the call telling the White House that they can lower their credit card rates.
     
  4. Correll
    Offline

    Correll Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2015
    Messages:
    56,440
    Thanks Received:
    6,461
    Trophy Points:
    1,870
    Ratings:
    +34,670

    Doubt it.
     
  5. Porter Rockwell
    Offline

    Porter Rockwell VIP Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2018
    Messages:
    3,115
    Thanks Received:
    133
    Trophy Points:
    75
    Ratings:
    +1,014

    Having looked this thread over carefully, it is painfully obvious that no matter how much is said, the right seems to be stuck on stupid on this issue. Is there any way that people can be objective here?

    NOBODY can show me any sentence in the United States Constitution that gives Congress the authority to limit the liberty of foreigners. So, when I have work to do and advertise for people to come out, I'm going to hire the best qualified person at the price I can afford to pay (usually $20 to $40 an hour for basic handyman work.)

    If you want the job, you have to get your ass off the Internet, forego social media, hang up your cell phone for a few hours and look for a job, then work it. Those of us in business and those with a home to keep running aren't going to lose what we have just because some of you think we owe you a damn job. Employers create the job; they own the job; constitutionally speaking we can give them to whomever we damn well please.

    We got into this clusterphuck of a situation because years ago the blacks demanded that they be given the jobs. Now you want them because you're born in the United States. I can't hire people that don't apply; can't afford to pay you if you don't work. Passing laws just costs you extra taxes.

    If you could succeed at closing me down, NO jobs would exist. You see, when the wheels of commerce run, other jobs are created. Here's your situation:

    A Mexican kid comes along and takes a job at $20 an hour. He APPLIED for the job. You didn't find it because you're on the Internet bitching. The Mexican guy has kids and an apartment (bills and responsibilities.) Those of you bitching live in mommy's basement or your old bedroom of when you were 12. You don't pay rent; on average most of you don't have an education, no job skills, no driver's license, and no work ethic. All you have are tattoos, body piercings, a criminal record, an addiction to cigarettes and alcohol along with addictions to pot and possibly hard core drugs.

    You want the right to be like that? I fully support it. But, if you live an irresponsible lifestyle, YOU pay for it. Don't expect the employer to. If you don't have your own house, YOU are fucking the rest of the taxpayers. Property taxes are just as high, if not higher, than the income tax you FALSELY accuse the foreigners of not paying. If you're living rent free with mommy (or if you're a parent with deadbeat kids), then YOU are the problem. In all honesty I'd love to hire a staff of all white males. The problem is most of them fit that previous paragraph and nobody should be forced to hire them.

    Guys, I'm not losing what I have because some of you are too stupid to be able to compete against uneducated third worlders. If you run big businesses out over who they hire, they will move to another country. Then you get NOTHING... and if you're sitting on your ass playing video games, visiting sites on social media, smoking weed, worrying about your next body piercing or tattoo while living in your parents home, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. If you're a parent letting your kids live at home, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. Fix your culture, vote with your wallet and pocket book. Boycott places that hire and / or cater to those you find offensive. Quit thinking that you can build a government big enough to save your from your own stupidity. In any event, get off the employers ass. There is not a swinging dick on the face of the earth that is going to tell me who I can and cannot hire. All this big government B.S. is over.
     
  6. sealybobo
    Offline

    sealybobo BANNED

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    78,845
    Thanks Received:
    5,231
    Trophy Points:
    1,845
    Location:
    Michigan
    Ratings:
    +20,742
    This is absurd. I wouldn't even know where to begin.

    I just wish all of Trump's blue collar supporters could hear what you just said about them. They are deplorable. I agree.

    And you think you should be legally allowed to hire people who are here in the country illegally? Sorry but your country disagrees with you. What you are is an illegal employer and you should have your business taken away from you.

    GO TO ANOTHER COUNTRY! By all means fucking leave. Lets see you succeed in any other country besides the USA you fucking asshole.

    Maybe you need to pay an American wage. Maybe that's why you can't find anyone good to come work for you.

    Oh, and the arguments you are making would actually be good arguments in a good economy when wages are up but Trump said he was going to kick illegals out and build a wall in order to raise wages for blue collar workers. We all know wages go down when the market is flooded with workers. So right now we have really low unemployment numbers. So then why the fuck is Trump still talking about illegals? I'll tell you why. Because it wins over the racist vote. You got to make someone else the bad guy. It's not the corporations who want to keep workers wages down. It's either the workers fault or the illegals.

    This reminds me of the GOP arguments that you guys made when Bush was in office. Meanwhile the rich got richer moving their operations to other countries. LEAVE! If you can make more somewhere else you'd already be gone you fucking traitor.

    You should lose your business and go to jail.
     
  7. sealybobo
    Offline

    sealybobo BANNED

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    78,845
    Thanks Received:
    5,231
    Trophy Points:
    1,845
    Location:
    Michigan
    Ratings:
    +20,742
    Read what Porter Rockwell said below this post of yours. Tell him he's a fucking traitor. He says he should be able to hire illegals and the reason he does is white blue collar men are drug addicts and losers.
     
  8. sealybobo
    Offline

    sealybobo BANNED

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    78,845
    Thanks Received:
    5,231
    Trophy Points:
    1,845
    Location:
    Michigan
    Ratings:
    +20,742
    I showed this to my girlfriend and now maybe her sister won't be asking for foodstamps

    Trump to deny green cards to immigrants receiving public benefits
     
  9. Porter Rockwell
    Offline

    Porter Rockwell VIP Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2018
    Messages:
    3,115
    Thanks Received:
    133
    Trophy Points:
    75
    Ratings:
    +1,014

    I'm sorry, but the country does NOT disagree with me. We're all adults here, son. So, let's be honest. If a majority of people picked the president, they chose Hitlery Clinton. She got the most votes. So, you're wrong on that count.

    On the second count, the United States Supreme Court has opined that NO ONE is obligated to obey an unconstitutional act. That is THEIR logic, not mine.

    Now then, the only authority the federal government has over foreigners is "Congress shall have the power ...To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization" (Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution) which they did only months after the ratification of the United States Constitution. In that law, it provided that:

    "Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof..."

    United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization” (March 26, 1790)

    Despite this fact, foreigners came here to work and do business for EIGHTY FIVE YEARS before the United States Supreme Court stepped in and granted "plenary powers" to the federal government for everything related to foreigners in about 1875 - 1876.

    I will give you $10,000 (TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS) in cash to cite one sentence from the Constitution wherein the framers gave the United States Supreme Court to grant to any other branch of government ANY power, much less plenary powers. The United States Supreme Court legislated from the bench. And you won't have the ethical wherewithal to admit that the high Court legislated from the bench which disrespects the Rule of Law. You Trumpsters preach about it, but sure as Hell don't want to live by it. Hypocrites, every one of you!

    Adding insult to injury, Congress ILLEGALLY passed the 14th Amendment that you probably think is valid. If not for that Amendment, you wouldn't have all those brown babies born in the U.S. you'd like to call a racist name, but cowardly chose "anchor babies," and that pretext proved to be false as parents are being deported and you're being left to pay welfare for their American born children.

    To give you the coup de grace, the 14th Amendment gave foreigners (regardless of any liberal immigration status the Democrats thought up for you) the government right of liberty (sic.) While doing that they NULLIFIED the Bill of Rights. This link will explain it to you:

    Stolen Rights

    If I get shut down, the government will raise taxes somewhere to compensate for the loss. And you'll pay them. You can't win. You're on the wrong side of the argument (you're actually arguing in favor of socialism) and you're on the wrong side of history. That above link will help you a lot.
     
  10. sealybobo
    Offline

    sealybobo BANNED

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    78,845
    Thanks Received:
    5,231
    Trophy Points:
    1,845
    Location:
    Michigan
    Ratings:
    +20,742
    So muslim illegals can come flooding in over the border and we are powerless to stop you from hiring them?

    This is just ridiculous. Does anyone here at USMB agree with you? Or are you just trying to be outrageous?

    There will be no loss. Another American will just fill in that void you left when we shut your business down.

    Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

    You know who agrees with you? All the illegal employers in America.

    And I've been telling these stupid Republicans that it is YOU who is the problem and not illegal immigrants but Fox and Rush got these idiots worshipping you job creators. Little do they know you are stealing from the American middle class.

    The cost of illegal immigration to taxpayers is growing at an unsustainable pace
     

Share This Page