Islamic State: The Terror We Give is the Terror We Get

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    F'course. Cause all western hungrily cheer when they make a parade of people in caged before burning them to death.

    Those people are crazy, and the likes of you are more crazy for supporting them
     
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    Unlike people like you I don't support the crimes of the Islamic State or the US or Israel. How many human beings did your heroic IDF murder in Gaza last summer? How much land did you manage to steal? The biggest difference between your Prime Minister or my President and the leaders of IS is an accident of birth.
     
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    Check your history references. The goal of a theocracy (re-establishing the khalīfah or caliphate) is a pan-national movement that existed for decades before the US invasion of Iraq.

    Restoration of the caliphate and implementation of sharia law (based on the Qu'ran) is the stated goal of the Muslim Brotherhood, founded in 1927. Check the history of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in the 1930s and 1940s. Re-establishing the khalīfah Is also the goal of Hizb-ut-Tahrir, founded in 1953, with 1 million members today.
    Now read the 1988 charter of Hamas, which states Hamas is the arm of the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine. The goal of theocracy and establishing a caliphate is a pan-national movement that existed for decades before the US invasion of Iraq.

    Opposing the US by violent means also has a long history. A Palestinian killed a leading US presidential candidate in 1968. There were Americans killed in airport attacks, hijackings and bombings in the 1980s. There was the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993. Osama bin Laden declared war on the US with a 1996 fatwa and two years later al-Qaeda bombed two US embassies in East Africa.
     
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    How does the historical success of the caliphate movement since March of 2003 compare with the previous century of struggle?
     
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    Can you flesh this out a little?
    Robert Kennedy was murdered by a Muslim partially in response to Kennedy's flagrant support of Zionism:

    "Sirhan Sirhan was a Palestinian Arab Christian with Jordanian citizenship, born in Jerusalem, who held strongly anti-Zionist beliefs.[36][37]

    "A diary found during a search of Sirhan's home stated for the entry May 19, 'My determination to eliminate RFK is becoming more and more of an unshakable obsession. RFK must die. RFK must be killed. Robert F. Kennedy must be assassinated..... Robert F. Kennedy must be assassinated before 5 June 68.'[38]

    "It has been suggested that the date of the assassination is significant, because it was the first anniversary of the start of the Six Day War between Israel and its Arab neighbors."

    Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
     
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    Apparently, UBL knew US history better than you do:
    "The Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement of 1944 was based on negotiations between the United States and Britain over the control of Middle Eastern oil.

    "Below is shown what the American President Franklin D. Roosevelt had in mind for to a British Ambassador in 1944:

    "'Persian oil ... is yours. We share the oil of Iraq and Kuwait. As for Saudi Arabian oil, it's ours.'"[7]

    United States foreign policy in the Middle East - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
     
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    not at all well-----there is still no caliphate and there are lots of dead people----
    BTW----the 1967 war was part of the STRUGGLE for caliphate----at that time
    the caliphate was not ISIS---it was the UAR (united arab republic)----also lots
    of dead bodies and no caliphate
     
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    The 1967 war was a continuation of the ethnic cleansing of Palestine began by Jews in 1948.

    Aren't you disappointed Israel wasn't able to shift the blame for murdering 34 Americans aboard the USS Liberty onto the UAR?
     
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    Israel never denied that it bombed the USS Liberty-----the incident was on radio news
    ---REAL TIME------Israeli navy guy was interviewed within the hour of the event----
    where were you??------at a bundist meeting?
     
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    Because the heroic Jews weren't able to kill Liberty's entire crew; no women or kids, I guess. Sucks to be 'Jew, right?
     

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