Oil discoveries dispel "Peak Oil" as myth

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    Hello Mr.H. what's up?
     
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    Producing methanol consumes almost as much energy as is contained in the fuel. I also doubt whether Alcohol engines are as efficient as diesel engines.
     
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    The problem being the production of the alcohol. Very oil intensive and in the long run you expend more oil then you save. As a cost comparison regular Jet fuel is 5.21 a gallon as of Monday when i bought some. Bio Jet fuel on the other hand is around three bucks more a gallon. And that is a blend, if you use pure bio jetfuel it runs 26 bucks a gallon. Feel free to show me where the savings are.
     
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    Mr. H has sadly not posted in a very long while. I fear that he has left us.
     
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    I know..
     
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    Alcohol is a superior fuel for spark ignition internal combustion but only if the engine is optimized to run on pure alcohol. I probably should have clarified what type of engines.
     
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    I know what you were talking about, but the fact remains that producing alcohol requires the expenditure of shitloads of oil. Which means the net result is less efficiency.
     
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    It burns up pistons..I know my dad and I used to race these boats..






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    It is only when one makes alcohol from corn that it has such high energy and water consumption problems. If you use sugar cane, sugar beets, or algae, then it becomes far more efficient.
    But ultimately alcohol does have lower energy content than bio diesel, so I like bio diesel better.
    All you have to do is cold press seeds or pods like palm oil.
    You can even run a diesel on chicken fat.
     
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    How much energy is used to create hemp oil?
     

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