Project Aurora: U.S. government, Intel aim for nation's fastest computer

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    Project Aurora: U.S. government, Intel aim for nation's fastest computer - Reuters

    Xeon CPU chips and Optane memory chips

    Nvidia's chips are found in five of the world's current top-10 supercomputers, though the Nvidia chips are found alongside chips from its rivals, according to TOP500, which ranks the machines.

    The world's current most powerful machine, the Summit supercomputer at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee, contains chips from International Business Machines Corp and Nvidia.

    The source of chips for supercomputers has become a factor in trade tensions between the United States and China. The world's third-fastest supercomputer - the Sunway TaihuLight in China - has chips developed domestically in China.

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    Years ago I posted this article on the USMB.

    US Air Force connects 1,760 PlayStation 3's to build supercomputer

    At the time I didn’t understand how partisan they are at the USMB. And how dumb the right wing is.
    They mocked me endlessly and followed me with every post going on and on about how stupid I was for believing such nonsense.

    The gist of my post was that I felt it was a mistake to be turning over so much technology and chip building knowledge to China.
    Right wingers on the USMB insisted that there’s a huge difference between chips for computers and chips for games. I was like? Huh?

    Xeon, Optane and Nvidia's chips are all used to make computer games and consoles.
    Xeon is the cpu
    Octane for memory
    Nvidia for graphics and calculations

    And here we are, fighting with China, just like I said. It’s not that I’m smart it’s just that it was so obvious what was going to happen, who couldn’t see it?

    The government should’ve stepped in and stopped transferring such important and delicate technology to the Chinese. For many reasons. One because they’re using chips developed here in their military. And now we have to rely on them to get computer chips for our military.
    And because the plants have been moved there, we don’t have them here. We have less capability of building computer chips because we moved so much of the development and the manufacturing to China. If they want to move rubber ducky making to China fine, but not our computer technology. This is just flat out greed turning over American technology to the Chinese.

    It’s kind of too late now. America really screwed itself doing this.
     
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    I think the problem was with the name PlayStation. That conjures up low technology and thereby mockery by those who are ill informed, but you are right the CPUs used in game machines are highly sophisticated and can outperform any CPU used in high end computers in some applications.

    Game CPUs were used in some pattern recognition machines because the floating point throughput is much higher. The multiprocessing is geared toward arithmetic calculation and high data streaming.

    I can see they would be good for supercomputers because they are designed for things like finite element analysis, and not word processing.


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    Good to have the competition on one hand. Keeps Intel from just sitting on their laurels. Of course, bad on the other in that we lose good jobs and more of our competitive edge perhaps forever. Why anyone would still feel the need to simulate nuclear blasts beats the hell out of me other than being an excuse to advance the technology at government expense. We're no more at war with China than we are with Finland or Russia. That's always just been BS manufactured to keep the MIC well funded. Fear, fear, fear! And computer chips are just the tip of the iceberg as I'm sure we're all well aware.
     
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    Perhaps you should have warned Billy Boy and Hilly
     
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    Warned them of what?
     
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    Chinese......BTW TRump is only President to address this...Thanks Trump
     
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    I haven't heard Trump talk about technology.

    Seems right wingers are always trying to spin Trump's failures into something positive.
     
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    You haven't heard Trump talking about China stealing Intellectual property?
     
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