Question - Citizenship Question for Census

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    Justices, Blocking Citizenship Question on Census, Call Trump's Push 'Contrived' | National Law Journal

    how was the question actually raised on the proposal? could it be rephrased or better detailed to get this on there?

    i hear it will misrepresent minorities and i don't understand how. if you're a citizen, who cares of what background? you did what you needed to do to be here, you get the same benefits we all do at that point. we keep throwing bodies into a crossfire of confusion and i just don't get it.

    most stories are beating up trump or calling the "news" news but not really going into detail. i'll dig more as my day allows but would love to hear honest discussion on the question and why it's a "problem" to count citizens.
     
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    Roberts is a turncoat, pure and simple. He cares more about being praised by leftwing newspapers and Washington insiders than doing what is right for the country and the Constitution.
     
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    Trump won't allow a census without that citizenship question, so its keep working at it until its in...
     
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    Remember, we are not just trying to count citizens, but everyone.

    Congressional representation is based upon total numbers, not just citizens.

    What is the benefit of the citizenship question?
     
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    Not sure of the details, but basically other evidence pertaining to the case was introduced during SC debate, and the SC cannot weigh new evidence. The case was sent back to the lower court to deal with it.

    Consider. Bush 41 gave us Souter. Bush 43 gave us Roberts.
     
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    Trump would have to violate the Constitution to stop it. I realize you are cool with that, but you should not be
     
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    Then why do we want to know gender, age, ethnic background, education levels?

    Anyone who says they are not interested in how many citizens are living in their district is lying or ignorant.
     
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    if we want to know how many americans live in america, how can we answer that?

    now - if electorial college votes are done purely by population, why are we counting non-citizens who can't vote anyway? should CA get +5 EC votes because they have the most illegal citizens in the country?
     
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    Census forms could be sent out as late as December 31 2020 to be legally counted as fulfilling the ten-year mandate.
     
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    and that is my big question - was this procedural, political (and everything these days is, even where to piss) or was the question not defined well enough? i'm trying to understand the mechanics, not the emotions, behind this decision. thank you.
     

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