Should We Take Back Former ISIS US Citizens?

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Under What Conditions Should we allow former ISIS members to return to the USA?

  1. Only as corpses for burial

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  2. IF they face the music and do their time

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  3. Only if we remove a finger or two

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  4. NEVER

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  5. as Life Prisoners only

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  6. Yes, but first kill a Florida gator in 10 feet of water

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  7. I dunno, whassa matter?

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    Then stay out of it.
     
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    She wants people to see ISIS as victims in order to generate sympathy for ISIS.

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    America foments war across the globe, who has what where?
     
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    If they are american citizens then there is only one thing you can do

    if they committed a crime then put them on trial and if found guilty put them into jail

    otherwise they are free to come and go but will probably be put on a watch list

    If a naturalized citizen then normally it cannot be revoked but there are certain things that can have it revoked

    If you live in a democracy then deal with the good , the bad , and the ugly

    If you want to act like communist or authoritarian then put them in jail
     
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    OK; one caveat...if a victim of forced marriage and defilement. But if willing partners then hell no!!!

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    The topic is not about me dude.

    As for the rest - some of them are victims. The reality on the ground isn't black and white. For example, look at these links:

    Children of ISIS - Transcript

    The children of ISIS need our help to grow up as peaceful citizens

    ‘What Is Going to Happen to Us?’ Inside ISIS Prison, Children Ask Their Fate
    Upstairs, jammed into two cells with little sunlight, are more than 150 children — ages roughly 9 to 14 — from a range of countries. Their parents brought them to Syria and ended up dead or detained. The children have been here for months and have no idea where their relatives are or what the future holds.

    Freed From ISIS, Yazidi Mothers Face Wrenching Choice: Abandon Kids Or Never Go Home

    So the question is...what do you do?

    As for the OP - if the title had been accurate (as I assumed) and the woman WAS a US citizen, we must take her back. That doesn't mean she is free to do as she wishes, it means she faces the justice system here, but if she IS a CITIZEN - we take her. Once you start deciding which citizens you take repatriate and which you abandon to statelessness you create slippery slope.

    So - what do you do if the fighter IS a citizen?

    What do you do with these kids?

    The Saudi's have, I believe, had a fairly successful program at rehabilitating jihadists. Maybe we could learn something from them.

    There are also those involved in working with child soldiers of conflicts, and returning them to civilian society. Also worth examining.

    Got something to add to this or, are you going to continue to make it about me?
     
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    "Willing partners" is hard to determine. I think you need to take it on a case by case basis, and each one will be different. And they will need to go through the justice system.
     
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    Upstairs, jammed into two cells with little sunlight, are more than 150 children — ages roughly 9 to 14 — from a range of countries. Their parents brought them to Syria and ended up dead or detained. The children have been here for months and have no idea where their relatives are or what the future holds.

    How many of those parents did we kill?
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    ';/
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    Does it matter?
     
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