Trump is fading among Independents

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    THOUGHTS FROM AN INDEPENDENT:

    I'm not a fan of the Liberal agenda. Democrats have done next to nothing regarding repairing our crumbling infrastructure and paying down our national debt, in addition, Liberals insistence on playing the race card at every opportunity is not scoring any points with me. With the possible exception of James Buchanan (1857-1861) Hillary Clinton was the poorest example of Presidential material I can think of. Her handling of her emails was just plain criminal, and the chant of "lock her up" from the right wing was not without merit.

    However....

    Since the right and left wings stand with equal numbers of voters, it's up to Independents like me to decide this next election, and I have to tell you Trump fans...it's starting to look grim for the Donald. Trump also has done nothing to pay down our national debt. His bullying tactic with our European allies have left him without the friends he needs for economic leverage against China in the ongoing trade situation, and his (less than) truthful remarks about Mexico paying for that border wall, big steel opening plants all over the country, tariffs making America rich, and other whoppers is not doing wonders for his credibility. Even in the red state of Texas Independents are drifting away from the Trumpster.

    There is still time to turn this around, but "The Donald" is going to have to stop playing fast and loose with the truth, and start listening to his GOP advisors little more....even if he does have a "great mind"


    Texas Poll: Trump Losing Among Independents in Texas

    Trump's 10 biggest falsehoods of 2018
     
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    You are correct about Indies. There are more "I's" that will be doing the deciding. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Independents comprise +40% of US voters.
     
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    Right now you are weighing Trump v. Trump. It will not come down to Trump v. Trump, it will come down to Trump v. whomever the Dems put up.
     
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    I think if Trump starts listening to his GOP advisors he'll lose for sure.
     
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    It's really Trump vs the Washington Establishment.
     
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    The problem is that we really have nowhere to go given this horrific choice. Both "major" parties are under the influence of their nutters.

    Nancy Pelosi of 2019 is the Paul Ryan of 2015.

    As repulsive as Trump is, looking the other "major" option right now doesn't exactly make that feeling go away. At all.
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    Maybe so, but not one independent will vote for any of the 22 folks the opposition has put up against Trump.
     
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    This Independent will vote again for Trump.
    Despite the R attached to his name.
     
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    Not just the Indy's but a lot of democrats will too. The union workers who see construction jobs and even some manufacturing jobs coming back like Trump. The dems hate pipelines, energy, tariffs, and doing anything that would upset their donors (aka bribers). In 2016 there were a lot of "stealth" Trump voters, be they union, or black, or women, or others who don't agree with the dems' policies.
    The new "populist" GOP will get more votes than the new "socialist" democrats.
    Trump still leads in Vegas, a 4:1 favorite, irrespective of the "polls"
    Donald Trump EVEN
    Kamala Harris +450
    Joe Biden +600
    Elizabeth Warren +800
     
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    An independent is a "liberal" too ashamed to admit they are liberals. That is the first thing, the second as you see here, with President Trump in office, the US is having its best economy with the most people working yet this guy has PTDS. 44% approve of the president in its latest poll, UP since last year. Either the pollsters are lying or this guy is lying.

    'This Week' Roundtable: Trump Reaches Peak Approval Rating At 44%, Which Democrat Has Best Shot To Win?
     

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