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    1. It wouldn't have collapsed.
    ....the British colony of Singapore was left without air cover in order to satisfy Stalin's desire for the planes. Found in Paul Johnson's "Modern Times," 'included 200 modern fighter aircraft, originally intended for Britain's highly vulnerable base in Singapore, which had no modern fighters at all. The diversion of these aircraft, plus tanks, to Russia sealed the fate of Singapore." Johnson, Op.Cit., p. 386.

    Singapore fell February 15, 1942.



    2. Stalin never would have surrendered. This was a psychopath.
    World War II left over 27 million Soviet citizens dead....but only a fraction of them were killed by the Germans. Yet throughout the West. 'war crimes' is a phrase only attacked to the Nazis. When the Red Army marched, an NKVD army marched behind, with its own tanks, machine guns, firing forward....never allowing retreat. More than a million Soviet citizens joined the Nazis. Ask yourself this: why was it that the USSR, of all the Allies, had provided the enemy with thousands of recruits? Nearly one million Russian and other anti-Soviet men joined the enemy of their Soviet Army. "The Secret Betrayal" by Nikolai Tolstoy, p. 19-20.



    3. Roosevelt would have supported Stalin unto the last American soldier was dead.
    FDR turned American war policy over to Koba....
    Stalin determined the Allies attack would come via Normandy, and now the more advantageous, through Italy. Stalin wanted Eastern Europe left to his Red Army.
    Stalin insisted all of Germany ‘pasturized,’ all industry destroyed, so that the Red Army has no opposition post war.

    Patton wanted to keep the Germany army ready to resist Stalin....so Patton was removed.




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    Read the quote which is the vedette of the discussion.

    I will show you how to research, how to solve a problem, how to find the most accurate answer with simple steps. I won't charge you at this time, but don't push your luck and ask me in another opportunity how to solve a similar word play from other historical characters.

    Roosevelt: "I would rather lose New Zealand, Australia or anything else than have the Russian front collapse."

    I would rather
    is an expression which can be taken literally and also can be a metaphor.

    The following will decided it.

    Roosevelt: "I would rather lose New Zealand, Australia or anything else than have the Russian front collapse."

    Tell me, were Australia and New Zealand part of America in those years?

    The answer is: No

    Those lands were England's property.

    Then, he is just mentioning lands which are not even near the place of conflict. He didn't even say he rather lose California o Wisconsin... hello?

    His quote is to be taken as an expression, like when you say you are "starving to death" just because you didn't have your breakfast and you feel your stomach empty.

    This is why he added "or anything else"

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    Roosevelt: "I would rather lose New Zealand, Australia or anything else than have the Russian front collapse."


    than have the Russian front collapse.
    is the wish that such never happens...at that moment.

    You claim that such wasn't to happen because this and that.

    Of course, that is what you can say today.

    But, in those days,
    communication means weren't like today's. The US had not a single idea of the power war machine of Russians. In those years, there weren't satellites, the informatics was primitive, radio communications suffered of interference all the time.

    News came with delay, the war results were known at a daily rate, not at a minute rate.Today you know war results in seconds. But we are talking of events happening 70 years ago.

    Look at yourself watching a game. The two teams have good players and the game results can't be predicted. Lets say, your team's quarterback suffers an injury and that turns the entire game into a different scenario.

    You and your friends are with certain worries, the replacement quarterback is not as good as the other plus he seems to have problems with long distance shots. Now you still cheering up your team but inside the feeling of losing the game is present because the other team is recovering and scoring points more often.

    Of course, after the game, when you are celebrating your team wining even when the quarterback was replaced, you can easily say that "it was obvious", you say "look, this is not about the quarterback but the whole team", that the results were supposed to be with greater score but "winning was imminent anyways".

    You can tell whatever you want AFTER the results.


    The same here, you write and write all the opinions made by others AFTER Russia won the battles.

    President Franklin Roosevelt said that quote in moments when no one knew what could be the final result.

    As I said before, your case is closed because... because in reality you have no case.



     
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    1. Stalin and Hitler were allies until Operation Barbarossa.

    2. Hitler needed resources his middle-sized nation couldn't supply....the other totalitarian entity provided them.

    3. Hitler gambled that he could take all of what he needed, conquer Russia, and the world.

    4. To do so, he needed to do it in 2-3 months....Blitzkrieg.

    5.Stalin was the smartest of the four dictators (Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, and Roosevelt).
    His doctrines are in the ascendancy today.

    6. Germany could never have forced Russia to surrender. Never.




    And you can't deny any of that.


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    That's because you're averse to education.





    1. Stalin and Hitler were allies until Operation Barbarossa.

    2. Hitler needed resources his middle-sized nation couldn't supply....the other totalitarian entity provided them.

    3. Hitler gambled that he could take all of what he needed, conquer Russia, and the world.

    4. To do so, he needed to do it in 2-3 months....Blitzkrieg.

    5.Stalin was the smartest of the four dictators (Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, and Roosevelt).
    His doctrines are in the ascendancy today.

    6. Germany could never have forced Russia to surrender. Never.




    And you can't deny any of that.


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    December 30, 1922




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    1922
    Union of Soviet Socialist Republics established
    The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, formed this day in 1922 with its capital in Moscow, eventually incorporated 15 republics and constituted (in area) the largest country in the world until its dissolution in 1991.
    On This Day December 30 - Historic Events and People



    At one point, very few could imagine Communism failing.......hence the cowards chanting 'Better Red Than Dead."


    Then.....along came Reagan.....and now the remnant of communist power reside only in the Democrat Party.
     
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    On December 25, Gorbachev resigned as leader of the USSR. The Soviet Union ceased to exist on December 31, 1991.


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