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    Medicare for all?

    forcing people into something they want nothing to do with, then forcing them to pay for other people’s shit while receiving zero benefit themselves.
    Socialism 101

    fuck progressives... lol
     
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    Ranking 37th — Measuring the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0910064


    World Health Organization’s Ranking of the World’s Health Systems
    Some people fancy all health care debates to be a case of Canadian Health Care vs. American. Not so. According to the World Health Organization’s ranking of the world’s health systems, neither Canada nor the USA ranks in the top 25.



    Improving the Canadian Healthcare System does not mean we must emulate the American system, but it may mean that perhaps we can learn from countries that rank better than both Canada and the USA at keeping their citizens healthy.

    World Health Organization's Ranking of the World's Health Systems


    U.S. Health Care Ranked Worst in the Developed World
    The U.S. health care system has been subject to heated debate over the past decade, but one thing that has remained consistent is the level of performance, which has been ranked as the worst among industrialized nations for the fifth time, according to the 2014 Commonwealth Fund survey 2014. The U.K. ranked best with Switzerland following a close second.

    The Commonwealth Fund report compares the U.S. with 10 other nations: France, Australia, Germany, Canada, Sweden, New Zealand, Norway, the Netherlands, Switzerland and the U.K. were all judged to be superior based on various factors. These include quality of care, access to doctors and equity throughout the country. Results of the study rely on data from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, the World Health Organization and interviews from physicians and patients.

    U.S. Health Care Ranked Worst in the Developed World


    HOW BAD IS U.S. HEALTH CARE? AMONG HIGH-INCOME NATIONS, IT’S THE WORST, STUDY SAYS
    As Republicans struggle to agree on a replacement for the Affordable Care Act, the Commonwealth Fund has rated the U.S. health care system as the worst among the 11 developed nations it analyzed as part of an evaluation conducted every three years. The think tank also rated the U.S. health care system as the worst-performing of the nations analyzed when the last evaluation was released in 2014.

    The U.S. health care system has been rated the worst (by far) among high-income nations


    How does the quality of the U.S. healthcare system compare to other countries?
    Bench-marking U.S. quality measures against those of similarly large and wealthy countries is one way to assess how successful the U.S. has been at improving care for its population, and to learn from systems that often produce better outcomes. The OECD has compiled data on dozens of outcomes and process measures. Across a number of these measures, the U.S. lags behind similarly wealthy OECD countries (those that are similarly large and wealthy based on GDP and GDP per capita).In some cases, such as the rates of all-cause mortality, premature death, death amenable to healthcare, and disease burden, the U.S. is also not improving as quickly as other countries, which means the gap is growing.
    How does the quality of the U.S. healthcare system compare to other countries? - Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker

     
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    I pay out-of-pocket for my healthcare, have for over 25 years.
    The last thing I wanna do is involve my family and I in some fucked up socialized medicine/healthcare.
     
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    And, while you are paying out of pocket you are also paying for your future Medicare. The dumb demons want to give your healthcare away to illegals.
     
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    There are so many good points to Medicare for all.
    1. Federal taxes would go up about double what you pay now.
    2. If you look at most countries that have single payer they are trying to keep the system from going belly up. To the point that healthcare is being rationed for older people.
    3. Most doctors can tell just by looking if you had medical equipment or surgery in a single payer country just by looking because it is usually under our standards.
    4. Private and semi private rooms would be a thing of the past.
    5. Will likely take six months to see a specialist and up to a year for non life threatening surgery.

    So many things to look forward to.
     
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    From first link...

    "The conceptual framework underlying the rankings2 proposed that health systems should be assessed by comparing the extent to which investments in public health and medical care were contributing to critical social objectives: improving health, reducing health disparities, protecting households . . ."

    HUH? We are ranking health care by social objectives? WTF?
     
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    Plus, every four years we have a vote on whether your grandma lives or dies. Go team.
     
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    You've been paying into Medicare and Medicaid whether you like it or not for your entire working life.

    Oh, forgot I was talking to a tRumpkin. You probably don't work.

    You've got nothing to complain about then.
     
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    Lol
    I’ve been self-employed for over 25 years, yes I’ve been paying into that shit my whole adult life. I would gladly give up what I paid in Up to this point, If I could not pay any more into those fucked up socialist entitlement programs.
     

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