Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

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    RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
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    I don't know that any representative of the "Palestinian People" was involved in any way.

    What ideals are you referring to → that are relevant to the territory?

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    RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
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    In 1948?
    In 1988?
    When?​
    There is no doubt in my mind, that most of these claims to a functional government by the Arab Palestinian proponents are purely imaginary.

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    I have never said that Jews have no rights. Rights like sovereignty and self determination are "national" rights. These are territorial rights. The French have those rights in France but they cannot claim those same rights in Britain. If someone from France moves to Britain and becomes a citizen then he will have those rights in Britain. However, those rights would not be exclusive or superior to those already living there.
     
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    Excepting Arab-Moslems and their history of war and conquest, settler colonialism. Jews and Christians were “already living there” (you pick the “there”), so explain this dhimmitude thing to us.
     
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    Islamic terrorist attacks from Gaza resulted in the expected IDF retaliation. The IDF struck 15 targets in Gaza. I’m not sure why they didn’t strike 30 or more to make a statement.



    After rocket attack, IDF strikes 15 terror targets in Gaza

    Two rockets were shot from Gaza on Tuesday night. The Iron Dome intercepted one rocket while another fell in an open field near Ashkelon.

    The Israeli Air Force attacked fifteen targets in Gaza overnight, the IDF confirmed early on Wednesday.

    Targets included a site used to manufacture weapons, a naval compound and a terror tunnel.
     
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    That is true. However, the Treaty of Lausanne was a part of a process. The plan was to create new states in that region. Each new state was named and post war treaties defined their international borders. The people who normally lived in each territory would become citizens/nationals of their respective territories. That plan could not be implemented as long as those territories fell under Turkish sovereignty.
    The Treaty of Lausanne merely released those territories so that the plan could be implemented. All of those new states came into existence with the Treaty of Lausanne.
     
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    Yes. The Treaty of Lausanne created the “country of Pal’istan (Where Dreams Come True™️). That just wasn’t stated in the documents because they, you know, forgot to mention that minor detail.
     
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    Indigenous to the land?


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    P F Tinmore
    What if Britain conquered France and forced there a Briton majority,
    then got dissolved by the US which decided to give half of Paris to Britain and a tiny province around it to the French nation to reestablish their homeland, leaving the British royalty to divide the rest.

    In case British royals gathered in war to take the rest of France and lost Paris,
    could France establish a preferential naturalization process for ethnic French living abroad?
     
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    What, exactly, is a “territorial right”? Please explain how that applies,
     

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