Who founded America left wing or right wing [picture]..

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    I am real intrigued by this picture , who founded America liberals or conservatives?

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    If you mean "America" that's very complicated indeed.

    If you mean the United States, that would be Liberals.

    Can't hep' ya with the horse stuff though.
     
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    Discovery: Vikings.
    First permanent settlement: Pilgrims.
    Creation of the United States: There were no political parties at the time of our nation's creation, only some differing opinions as to the rights for its citizens and not wanting an oppressive government, as England was.
     
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    Ah but he didn't say political parties, he said "Liberals or Conservatives".*

    The latter were the Royalists who fancied staying part of the British Empire, the former were the rebels who reasoned that power derives from the consent of the governed and not from some racketeer collusion of aristocracy and clergy.
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    "America" of course is much more complicated, that's where your Vikings come in. The first permanent settlement I suspect was in Hispaniola, which is now split between the DR and Haiti.

    Fun fact: Haiti was the second independent republic in the Americas, and it took us eons to recognize that.

    * actually his title says "left wing or right wing" which is different from "Liberals or Conservatives" so he doesn't seem to get that. :dunno:
     
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    I was citing the first permanent settlement (Jamestown) in the actual North American Continent not the Caribbean islands.
     
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    Right, the founding fathers are "liberals" who reject everything you believe in.
     
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    I know but he said "America" which is two continents. And Leif Ericsson landed in what is now Canada, so that's not the US. It's either "America" or "the US", can't be both. He also said "founded", which sounds like he means the US.

    On the continental landmasses proper, São Vicente was founded in what is now Brazil in 1532.
     
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    The indisputable answer is CONSERVATIVES! No matter what they thought of or called themselves at the time. The simple proof of that is had Liberals founded the USA, conservatism would be outlawed and conservatives would all be illegal, censured and locked away in prison on hate-speech charges.

    Only Conservatives are stupid enough to create a great country as this then open the doors to all no matter how different, including those who hate and want to destroy you.
     
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    Slavers founded America
     
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    The first settlers tried liberalism they almost starved to death after some who were working and contributing noticed others were not. So they also stop contributing
     
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