World Oil All Gone In 38 Years

Discussion in 'Energy' started by watchingfromafar, Jun 7, 2019.

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Do you believe we should start doing something now?

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  2. No

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  3. I could care less

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  1. watchingfromafar
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    "we'll place your theory"? When you, yourself and your alter-ego come together into one mindset, let me know and I will be happy to talk to whichever of you fractured selves wins out.
    Until then it's best you continue talking to yourselves.
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    Bad math...

    First of all, we have no idea precisely how much available oil there is at any given moment.

    Second of all, you are calculating as if there are only 1.3 trillion barrels of a non-renewable source left... Oil IS renewable; it forms naturally underground. So, you'd have to at least figure that the 1.3 trillion number is steadily increasing by X barrels per day. Point being, we have MUCH longer than 38 years of oil left to tap into... Oil availability isn't an issue.
     
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    You make a good point in your first paragraph about the figures being bad. We simply don't know how much available oil there is.

    Your second paragraph has issues though. First off, what IS "climate change"? Please provide a non-circular definition of the term. This is part #1 (entitled "Logic") of my three part rejection of "climate change". Circular definitions simply do not work, as they make reference to nothing outside of themselves. They yield void arguments.

    As to "increasing precipitation in the Mid West", I suppose that depends on specific location. I will agree that my specific location in the Mid West this year saw the worst flooding that I have seen during my 28 year lifetime (and my dad says likewise for his lifetime). We had pretty bad flooding in 2008 too. Other years have been just fine, though. --- Given that, I'm not sure how one figures that "precipitation is increasing" in a large region... Even in a specific location, what time period are you using? Why is that time period "holy" as opposed to any other time period? In the end, weather is a random event; it just does what it does.

    Same line of reasoning as above applies for the "increasing droughts in the South West" bit...

    Forest fires in the West, especially the ones in Kaliphornia (I spell it like that because I don't consider them to be part of the Union anymore, since they are effectively an Oligarchy that rejects the US (and their own State) Constitution at this point), are largely due to poor forest management practices. Their attempts to "help" the environment are actually harming it.

    The same line of reasoning for rainfall and droughts also applies to your hurricane claim...

    Your "rise in sea level" claim is a bad one, making use of made up numbers... There is no way to accurately measure "global sea level", as there is no valid reference point for doing so.

    The "you don't care" bit at the end of your post is not a valid argument...
     
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    China Is Set To Become The World's Renewable Energy Superpower, According To New Report

    Jan 11, 2019, 07:21am
    The continuing growth in renewable energy around the world is set to boost the power of China
    while undermining the influence of major oil exporters such as Russia and Middle East states like Saudi Arabia, according to a new report on the geopolitical implications of the changing energy landscape.

    “No country has put itself in a better position to become the world’s renewable energy superpower than China,” says the report, which was issued by the Global Commission on the Geopolitics of Energy Transformation – a group chaired by a former president of Iceland, Olafur Grimsson.

    The commission was set up by the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA) last year and its findings were published on January 11 in Abu Dhabi, at IRENA’s annual assembly.

    Olafur Grimsson, former president of Iceland and chairman of the Global Commission on the Geopolitics of Energy Transformation, speaking at the launch of the group’s report on January 11 in Abu Dhabi, UAE (photo: IRENA)

    Olafur Grimsson, former president of Iceland and chairman of the Global Commission on the Geopolitics of Energy Transformation, speaking at the launch of the group’s report on January 11 in Abu Dhabi, UAE (photo: IRENA) IRENA

    The report argues that the geopolitical and socio-economic consequences of the rapid growth of renewable energy could be as profound as those which accompanied the shift from biomass to fossil fuels two centuries ago. The changes are likely to include the emergence of new energy leaders around the world, changing patterns of trade and the development of new alliances. It could also spark instability in some countries which have grown dependent on oil and gas revenues.

    The report points out that China has taken a lead in renewable energy and is now the world’s largest producer, exporter and installer of solar panels, wind turbines, batteries and electric vehicles.

    China also has a clear lead in terms of the underlying technology, with well over 150,000 renewable energy patents as of 2016, 29% of the global total. The next closest country is the U.S., which had a little over 100,000 patents, with Japan and the E.U. having closer to 75,000 patents each.

    “The renewables revolution enhances the global leadership of China, reduces the influence of fossil fuel exporters and brings energy independence to countries around the world,” said Grimsson, speaking at the launch of the report. “The transformation of energy brings big power shifts.”

    Beyond China, there are a few other groups of countries which stand to gain from the trends now under way. They include countries with high potential for renewable energy generation, such as Australia and Chile, which could become significant exporters of renewable electricity. Mineral-rich countries such as Bolivia, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Mongolia could also tap into rising global demand for their raw materials.

    Many of these governments are well aware of the risks they face and have been making significant investments into renewable energy in recent years. For example, the UAE has developed vast solar energy parks and Saudi Arabia recently unveiled plans to develop 59GW of renewable energy by 2030.

    Stressing a more optimistic view, Adnan Amin, director general of IRENA, said at the launch of the report that “The global energy transformation driven by renewables can reduce energy-related geopolitical tensions as we know them and will foster greater cooperation between states. This transformation can also mitigate social, economic and environmental challenges that are often among the root causes of geopolitical instability and conflict.”
    China Is Set To Become The World's Renewable Energy Superpower, According To New Report
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    Nope. China ain’t doing that.
     
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    Every industrialized nation in the world except trumpland is working toward ending fossil fuel dependence and going to renewable.
     
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    France Will Save Billions By Investing in Renewables Instead of Nukes

    December 12, 2018

    France will save 39 billion euros ($44.5 billion) if it refrains from building 15 new nuclear plants by 2060, and bets instead on renewable energy sources to replace its all its aging atomic facilities, a government agency said.

    France should spend 1.28 trillion euros over the next four decades, mostly on clean power production and storage capacities, networks, and imports, according to a report from the country’s environment ministry. If it does this, France would progressively shut down its 58 atomic plants and renewable energy would comprise 95 percent of its electricity output by 2060, up from 17 percent last year.

    The development of the so-called EPR nuclear reactors “wouldn’t be competitive for the French power system from an economical standpoint,” the Agence de l’Environnement et de la Maitrise de l’Energie --or Ademe-- said in a statement. The report assumes that the reactors would produce electricity at a cost of 70 euros per megawatt-hour, while the cost of wind and solar power would fall much lower.

    The report follows President Emmanuel Macron’s announcement that state-controlled Electricite de France SA will have to shut as many as 14 of its 58 nuclear reactors by 2035 to allow renewable energy to expand the country’s power mix. Macron also gave EDF until mid-2021 to prove that it can build an economically-viable reactor before the country decides to build new atomic plants. EDF’s EPR project in Normandy is more than six years late coming online, and the cost has more than tripled from its original budget.

    Falling costs means that photovoltaic facilities won’t need subsidies from 2030, nor will onshore wind from 2035, the report said. That’s assuming that EDF halts 30 percent of its reactors after 40 years of operation and an additional 30 percent when they turn 50. Otherwise, surplus production capacity would undermine the economics of both nuclear power and renewables, Ademe said.

    The study doesn’t take into account the impact on jobs, industry and the environment. However, “we’re expecting job creations in renewables and energy efficiency to largely make up for job losses in the nuclear industry,” said Ademe Chairman Arnaud Leroy.
    France Will Save Billions By Investing in Renewables Instead of Nukes
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    You just might be right. I heard somewhere that a person who has been buried in a coffin for 100 years or more degrades into a pint of oil and there are millions of graves out there!!!!

    And the coffins have some value too.

    Lol

    just a joke between friends :)-
     
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    You meant according to bullshit report.
     
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    You win the "Oxymoron of the Month" award for your entry "Renewable Energy Superpower" Congratulations!
     

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